Curse

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Here is the build I currently have Norgu using & he NEVER seems to use Backfire. Even against elementalists he uses empathy instead:

[skill]Power Block[/skill][skill]cry of frustration[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]power drain[/skill][skill]backfire[/skill][skill]empathy[/skill][skill]leech signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Domination Magic - 16
Inspiration Magic - 12
Fast Casting - 3

Thanks.

Arkantos · Mar 20, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

AI is stupid, nothing else to really say.

Covah · Mar 20, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Hexes are hexes to heroes. Same with interupts. They don't know what they do.

Shuuda · Mar 20, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Because Norgu is a half decent Mesmer that knows Backfire is at it's core, lame. Funny how the games "Stupid" AI is often smarter than many players.

Velise_Snowtorm · Mar 20, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

I've never given my Norgu Backfire, never saw a reason since bringing Backfire on a bar filled with interrupts is rather counterproductive.

I'd drop it and bring something else.

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Velise_Snowtorm

I've never given my Norgu Backfire, never saw a reason since bringing Backfire on a bar filled with interrupts is rather counterproductive.

I'd drop it and bring something else.

It's just INCASE a spell manages to get cast really. I'm thinking of changing to a ranger interrupter instead of a mesmer anyway.

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Because Norgu is a half decent Mesmer that knows Backfire is at it's core, lame. Funny how the games "Stupid" AI is often smarter than many players.

Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.

Shuuda · Mar 20, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by whufc89

Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.

You get hurt that much by Backfire........

Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs.

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

You get hurt that much by Backfire........

Oh, and learn to edit posts. Doublepost is for noobs.

Oh noez, I'm a noob and ur pr0. Grats.

As an ele at 60 AL & getting hit by a backfire from a level 28 enemy yes it's pretty damaging & by devastating I didn't just mean the damage, I meant it leaves you unable to cast for a while aswell.

And you still didn't explain why it's "lame".

CandyPrince · Mar 20, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by whufc89

Why is it lame? Just wondering. The times I've encountered it (being an ele myself) it's been pretty devastating.

Lol you mean you just don't stop casting? That would prevent the damage. Forcing your hero monk etc to remove the hex would be fairly easy. Back fire is lame!

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by CandyPrince

Lol you mean you just don't stop casting? That would prevent the damage. Forcing your hero monk etc to remove the hex would be fairly easy. Back fire is lame!

But why? Nobody is explaining WHY it's lame. Fair enough, you're all probably right but a reason would be nice that's all. I'm not flaming anyone or disagreeing I'd just like to know

Toutatis · Mar 20, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

The hero AI doesn't think to cast Backfire straightaway. Heroes seem to be programmed to use Backfire as a shutdown measure - an AI enemy will never try to cast through Backfire if the hex damage would be fatal.

So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness.

whufc89 · Mar 20, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

The hero AI doesn't think to cast Backfire straightaway. Heroes seem to be programmed to use Backfire as a shutdown measure - an AI enemy will never try to cast through Backfire if the hex damage would be fatal.

So Norgu would use Backfire - but only when the enemy target has less than 147 health (and by that time, it's basically dead anyway and would most likely be a corpse before the hex can be applied with only 3 ranks in fast casting). If you do wish to include Backfire in your party's build, only a human controlled Mesmer will know to cast it immediately and be able to use it to any degree of effectiveness.

Thank you very much.

mrmango · Mar 20, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by whufc89

But why? Nobody is explaining WHY it's lame. Fair enough, you're all probably right but a reason would be nice that's all. I'm not flaming anyone or disagreeing I'd just like to know

It is a 3 second cast. That's crappy. 15 energy, that's crappy. It deals a lot of damage, but who would honestly cast a lot of spells when they're hexed with it? Just wait for the hex removal, which good monks deal with quickly. It's just hard to use and actually provide a lot of pressure. Plus in a build with interupts, it's counter-productive